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Zeras
07-31-2007, 12:47 PM
Please discuss any complaints, comments, questions, etc. you have regarding the beta testing of the new player Power Rating system.

-Z

FBG_HULK
07-31-2007, 12:49 PM
What goes into this?

Overall DPS?
Armor?
Character Stats?

Thanks!

Zeras
07-31-2007, 12:51 PM
All of it :)

It used to be based only on item rarity ..

Now it is based on item DPS and overall player stats. I've been planning for this for about 3 weeks now so I've had plenty of time to think about it :)

-Z

FBG_HULK
07-31-2007, 12:53 PM
All of it :)

It used to be based only on item rarity ..

Now it is based on item DPS and overall player stats. I've been planning for this for about 3 weeks now so I've had plenty of time to think about it :)

-Z

I think makes much more sense than basing it on rarity.

Suggestion: It might be cool if you could sort rankings by power rating now too.

jujube
07-31-2007, 12:56 PM
While this is certainly more logical way to rate people, it does make it a bit too easy to determine who you can likely beat before attacking them. I'm not so sure that is a good thing.

However, I really can't argue against the motives behind doing it as you have.

Lady Vengeance
07-31-2007, 12:56 PM
Is it available to see your opponents power rating?

What good is only knowing your own?

Olaf the Damned
07-31-2007, 12:57 PM
I like it! :) Number on the right panel could be bigger though... :p

Forum colors look better too.

mora
07-31-2007, 12:58 PM
I think makes much more sense than basing it on rarity.

Suggestion: It might be cool if you could sort rankings by power rating now too.

agreed.

I think it's pretty cool. One of my favorite things when winning a new prize was seeing how it would affect my rating, even though it was rather meaningless. It was disappointing to see a UC replace a C and my rating stay at 1.5 or whatever. This looks like you'll be able to see a direct correlation now.

hoytdwow
07-31-2007, 12:58 PM
I'm an 8.9 and I just lost to a 7.4 who I'm 16-3 against.
:(

Zeras
07-31-2007, 12:59 PM
Suggestion: It might be cool if you could sort rankings by power rating now too.
Done ..

-Z

Vikings4ever
07-31-2007, 01:00 PM
Do the ratings affect how much experience you get from winning?

Zeras
07-31-2007, 01:02 PM
Is it available to see your opponents power rating?

What good is only knowing your own?
Um .. it's on the rankings page .. where you ATTACK :) :)

-Z

Zeras
07-31-2007, 01:02 PM
Do the ratings affect how much experience you get from winning?
No .. Ranking determines that ..

-Z

Zeras
07-31-2007, 01:03 PM
I'm an 8.9 and I just lost to a 7.4 who I'm 16-3 against.
:(
Remember, it's not done .. it's in BETA testing as stated in the Game Updates ..

-Z

Zeras
07-31-2007, 01:04 PM
The concept we have is perfect .. we just need to figure out which stats need to have more or less weight in the formula. That's why we said it was in BETA because the values will change as we keep tweaking the formulas.

-Z

FBG_HULK
07-31-2007, 01:10 PM
Done ..

-Z

Nice! Looks like I'm a paper champion holding a top 10 ranking. I'm not even on the first page in terms of power.

Lady Vengeance
07-31-2007, 01:21 PM
ok i see it now, i'm moving a bit slow today

but i do like it, i feel this helps with chosing who to fight. not that having a higher rate insures that you win. but if you take into account other stats and use them to your benifit

jujube
07-31-2007, 01:34 PM
Nice! Looks like I'm a paper champion holding a top 10 ranking. I'm not even on the first page in terms of power.Heck, I'm at 15 and am at the bottom of page 3 in terms of power ranking

Zeras
07-31-2007, 01:55 PM
Hell, I'm at 15 and am at the bottom of page 3 in terms of power ranking
Remember though that even once we get the final formulas in place, that ranking will not be based on power ratings for the primary rankings.

It's like you being the fastest runner in the world but only running one or two races each year. Other slower runners will be ranked higher than you. Of course you can use the same analogy for Tennis, auto racing, etc.

-Z

SamuriFish
07-31-2007, 01:57 PM
Lol. Im ranked 6th in terms of level, and somewhere deep onto page two for power rating. Ah well, I always knew I was too weak to be where I was. Hopefully Ill win the bid on a couple of spells and change that.

N00l3SaUcE
07-31-2007, 02:11 PM
The concept we have is perfect .. we just need to figure out which stats need to have more or less weight in the formula. That's why we said it was in BETA because the values will change as we keep tweaking the formulas.

-Z
i have a 6.9 rating, no idea how since all my items are common, anyway i went to page 4 and decided to attack some1 with a 5.2 rating but more wins than me. he won by 50 health :(

anyway that was just an insight on how the ratings are :)

Zeras
07-31-2007, 02:19 PM
There was a bug in the rating formula .. can several of you test the battles now to see how the ratings compare?

-Z

Vikings4ever
07-31-2007, 02:20 PM
Rating just increased by 3.8.

deathbagel
07-31-2007, 02:21 PM
There was a bug in the rating formula .. can several of you test the battles now to see how the ratings compare?

-Z
So far it seems pretty accurate.. the people who rate close to me it's aboout 50/50 with (onetime, Vikings) but others who are lower rated (Odin, Fendrin) rarely win against me...

Zeras
07-31-2007, 02:21 PM
I know .. everyone's rating increased .. there was a bug ..

What I need is the same comments from battles that were posted before but now after battles with the new power ratings ..

It may yield the same results but it will give me an idea how out of balance the ratings are versus how realistically powerful the players are.

-Z

sparkyd
07-31-2007, 02:22 PM
I also increased by 3.8.

Delfeye
07-31-2007, 02:24 PM
I know .. everyone's rating increased .. there was a bug ..

What I need is the same comments from battles that were posted before but now after battles with the new power ratings ..

It may yield the same results but it will give me an idea how out of balance the ratings are versus how realistically powerful the players are.

-Z
Give me a dozen EPs or so and I will test for you. ;)

Vikings4ever
07-31-2007, 02:24 PM
There was a bug in the rating formula .. can several of you test the battles now to see how the ratings compare?

-Z

I've been fighting players that are rated a good 2 points below me, and constantly winning.

Not that that's probably a whole lot of help.

N00l3SaUcE
07-31-2007, 02:25 PM
i cant battle and tell u the difference cuz im outta everpoints but i now have a 8.9 rating

the guy with 5.2 rating that i battled before went to 8.1 and other people that i usually beat on decreased to around 3

mora
07-31-2007, 02:35 PM
I know .. everyone's rating increased .. there was a bug ..

What I need is the same comments from battles that were posted before but now after battles with the new power ratings ..

It may yield the same results but it will give me an idea how out of balance the ratings are versus how realistically powerful the players are.

-Z

I fought two people ranked ahead of me, but with slightly lower ratings, and beat both. One handily, one very closely.

N00l3SaUcE
07-31-2007, 02:47 PM
i have 1 uncommon wielded now, ratings the same. could my rating have gotten so big beacuse i fight ppl in the 80-150s when im in the 200s?

Zeras
07-31-2007, 03:42 PM
i have 1 uncommon wielded now, ratings the same. could my rating have gotten so big beacuse i fight ppl in the 80-150s when im in the 200s?
Rating has nothing to do with rank because then players could manipluate their ratings .. It's based purely on character stats and items.

-Z

Personater
07-31-2007, 03:45 PM
I love this system...and I think that it's greatly beneficial in determining who I fight...so another round of kudos to you!

snowman
07-31-2007, 08:07 PM
I like this new rating...makes more sense to include more variables.

N00l3SaUcE
07-31-2007, 08:12 PM
but because of that its going to take a little while before its working at its best.

_slic_
08-01-2007, 02:20 AM
I like the new rating system..... my only comment is that the rating on the stat column is too large and sticks out like a sore thumb......and on a unrelated font size issue .... I realize it is my own fault and im sure Im not the only one to do this .....but when I battle I pay no attention to how many eps it takes to battle untill I get to the battle screen..... and the font size there telling you it is X amont to battle at the bottom is pretty small.... I have inadvertently battled for more than 3 eps on several occasions... is there any chance you would change THAT number so that it DOES stick out like a sore thumb? sort of acting like a stop sign of sorts?

yes that a good idea I will do that is an acceptable answer... Of course, youre an idiot and you need to pay more attention , is also a very reasonable answer and probably the one I deserve :D

N00l3SaUcE
08-01-2007, 08:05 AM
it says at the top so ud notice that

You will be fully recovered for battle in 112 seconds!

Warning: Your battle will cost 10 everpoints if you attack now!

so it seems pretty noticeable to me

Also what does H-H mean?

dreamthrum
08-01-2007, 08:23 AM
Much better system of comparison. This gives a good idea of what you are up against.

Delfeye
08-01-2007, 08:45 AM
Also what does H-H mean?
It means Head to Head (your record against that individual)

N00l3SaUcE
08-01-2007, 09:25 AM
oh i thought they were good because theirs said 10-0 but i guess not lol

Dragother
08-01-2007, 11:08 AM
I definitely like this better. Still not a guarantee of a win which is good. The size of the number in your stats section needs to be way smaller though. It is just killing me at that size.

N00l3SaUcE
08-01-2007, 11:53 AM
it seems to get bigger with every new point, i went from 8.9 to 9.0 and it got huge.

SoCalBroncoFan
08-01-2007, 12:02 PM
it seems to get bigger with every new point, i went from 8.9 to 9.0 and it got huge.

Strangely enough, this seems to be true. I am at 12.2 now and it is bigger than when it was 11.

siouxst
08-01-2007, 12:11 PM
I am pretty pleased with the new system, adds another tool to help me decide if I should even consider battling someone :)

diehard6996
08-02-2007, 10:55 AM
I think skill currently doent matter at all.

I replaced a rank II burst with 54/100 skill and put a rank VIII burst with 0/100 skill and my rating increased by 0.6!

The second is clearly less damage so I think rating should go down.

Zeras
08-02-2007, 01:27 PM
I think skill currently doent matter at all.

I replaced a rank II burst with 54/100 skill and put a rank VIII burst with 0/100 skill and my rating increased by 0.6!

The second is clearly less damage so I think rating should go down.
That was a bug .. it should be fixed now.

Thanks for letting me know about it.

Read the GU (game updates) for more details ..

-Z

Neo Spells12
08-10-2007, 07:59 AM
My overall power is 2.0 for everwars. yeah i know i'm a bad player.